Loading...
 

1893 Reserves

The economic depression had which begun in1890 reached its peak in 1893. Victoria was hardest hit as the 1880s Land Boom collapsed.
Over 20,000 Victorian workers were out of a job and this affected the football club's revenue. Clubs were trying to save money and cutting the funding of the Reserves was one way of doing that.
In 1892 many VFA clubs did not field a Reserves team, and this came to head early in the season of 1893, when, after a few rounds, the VFA abandoned the Reserves or Second Twenty competition completly.
Carlton tried its best to hang on to its Second Twenty and the secretary E. Penny tried to arrange games with junior clubs. A few games were played on an ad-hoc basis, but to no avail.
So the VFA clubs turned to a local junior club to act as a reserve or feeder side to the senior team.

Below is the final VFA 1892 reserve/second twenty ladder which had only 7 clubs competing.


Carlton Juniors and the Carlton Second Twenty details both appear on this page.


1893: Victorian Junior Football Association – V.J.F.A.

April 07
North Melbourne AGM;

“Many innovations are contemplated this season, one of the pricipal being the disbandment of the second twenty. As several of the clubs last season did away with their “second string,” and Geelong have followed suit this season, it is reasonable to suppose that second twenties have outlived their usefulness, and will be reckoned among the things that have been.”

(North Melbourne Advertiser p3)

April 14 Friday
“All members and intending members of the second twenty of Carlton are requested to turn up for practice at Prince's Park.” (Herald p3)

Carlton Juniors were formed about 1892 and played in the VJFA. Home ground was in Royal Park.

April 15
Carlton Juniors (23) v Footscray on the Western Oval.
Carlton Juniors team; (23 named)
W. Memmott (capt), Crapp, Burns, Eastmure, Holt, Dillon, Weecraft, Pinkeron, O'Shannassy, Randall, Rose, Muir, Burwood, Stewart, Orwin, Stokes, Finlay, Fitzgerald, Anderson, Duff, Roberts, Sharkey, Delagana.
Umpire; Frank Coffey (former Carlton player)
Match drawn.
Carl.Junrs; 1.2, 1.2 3.4, 3.4
Footscray; 1.0, 2.2 2.3, 3.9
Goals; Burns, Stewart


April 18
CARLTON JUNIORS
“They think they will have a stronger team this season than last season. They have about twenty new players this year to pick from, with the majority of their last year's team.
There are three of their players throwing in their lot with the Carlton first twenty, namely, A. Hearnden, best all round man; H. Burwood, splendid follower; O. Smith, splendid back player, also good follower.”
(Herald p3)

April 22
No details

April 29
Carlton Juniors v Carlton on the University ground.
Called Carlton District in the Herald, however W. Memmott is captain.
Carlton Juniors team; (23 named)
W. Memmott (capt), Burns, W. Mitchell, Muir, Rendell, Rose, Stokes, Slattery, Delagana, Holt, Robinson, Walton, Haysom, Murphy, Petherbridge, Caffery, Franks, Thomson, Swan, Leith, Mitchell, Crapp, Houston.
Carlton Juniors lost; 2.4 – 3.5
Goals; Shains(?), Burns


April 29
Carlton second twenty will play a match on Princes Oval at 3pm.

May 02

“Second twenties are being gradually abolished.

It pays seniors better to subsidise junior club” (Sportsman p6)

“Second Twenty Premiership caps given by the V.F.A. presented to the secretary of the South Melbourne second twenty on Friday night. Not to be given again.” (Sportsman p6)
Image


“Olympus” Punch May 18 (p11) 1893
Olympus was one of the journalistic pen-names of George F. Bowen,
one of the founders of the Carlton Football Club.
“Sir Hercules” is former Carlton Captain and President George Robertson.





May 05 Friday
“Carlton have gone in for reconstruction, and have drawn largely on the junior reserves.
Although the majority of the team will make their first appearance in the senior ranks, most of them have won their spurs in the first-rate junior matches, and it is expected they will render a good account of themselves tomorrow.” (Herald p3)

May 06
Round One 1893 VJFA Season
Carlton Juniors v Fitzroy Juniors in Royal Park
Carlton Juniors team; (18 named)
Orwin, Fitzgerald, Slattery, Delagana, Anderson, Stewart, Wright, Sharkey, Rose, Burns, Robson, Muir, Mitchell, Dillon, Stokes, Ruddell, Memmott, Holt
Umpire; F. Farr
Carlton Juniors lost. 1.1 - 2.6
Goal; Rose
Best; Orwin (BOG)
May 13
Carlton Juniors v North Williamstown
Carlton Juniors lost, 2 – 5

May 13
Carlton Juniors v North Williamstown at Williamstown
Carlton Juniors team; (28 named)
Anderson, Anderson, Barrass, Burns, D. Dillon, F. Delagana, Eastmure, Fitzgerald, Holt, Memmott, Muir, Mitchell, Orwin, Randall, Ruddell, Rose, Stokes, Stewart, Slattery, Sharkey, Smith, Sigmont, Tulloch, Wright, D. Williams, Dudley, Swift, Robinson.
Umpire; F. Lucas
Carlton Junior team (20 named, Saturday's Herald)
Anderson, Barrass, Burns, Dillon, Delagana, Fitzgerald, Holt, Memmott (capt), Muir, Orwin, Rose, Stokes, Stewart, Slattery, Sharkey, Sigmont, Tulloch, Wright, Dudley, Kent.
Carlton Juniors lost, 2.2 – 5.4
Goals; Gallie (?), Fitzgerald.

Image
Ladder “Olympus” Punch May 18 (p11) 1893

May 21
Carlton Juniors v Union Jack at the Juniors' home ground in Royal Park
Carlton Juniors team, (28 named)
Anderson, Anderson, Barrass, Burns, Dillon, Delagana, Fitzgerald, Hartley, Holt, Holt, Holt, Legge, Memmott, Muir, Mitchell (?). Orwin, Rose, Stokes, Stewart, Slattery, Sharkey, Smith, Sigmont, Tulloch, Thorpe, Thompson, Williams, Wright.
Umpire; W. H. Thompson
Carlton Juniors team; (20 named, Saturday Herald)
Barrass, Burns, Dillon, Delagana, Fitzgerald, Hartley, Holt, Legge, Memmott (capt), Muir, Orwin, Stokes, Stewart, Slattery, Sharkey, Sigmont, Tulloch, Thorpe, Wright, Farquar.
Carlton Juniors won, 3.8 – 2.4
Goals, Muir, Wright, Legge.
Best; Burns, Stewart, Bill Sharkey, Dick Wright, Frank Delagana, Slattery, Sigmont, Tulloch, George Orwin,.

May 27
Carlton Juniors v Marylebone at Middle Park
Carlton Juniors team, (28 named)
Anderson, Anderson Burns, Barrass, Dillon, Delagana, Fitzgerald, Farquar, Hartley, Gathe? , Holt, Ingram, Legge, Memmott, Muir, Mitchell, Orwin, Rose, Stokes, Stewart, Slattery, Sharkey, Smith, Sigmont, Tulloch, Thorpe,Wright, Williams.
Umpire; F. Lucas
Carlton Juniors lost, 0 -3

VJFA Ladder A Section
Carlton Juniors eighth, Played 4, Won 1, Lost 3, Drawn 0, Goals For 6, Goals Against 12, Points 4

May 30 Tuesday
Carlton Second Twenty v North Melbourne Second Twenty
Carlton won 2 – 0
This is the first mention of Carlton's second twenty this season. (Sportsman p6)

June 03
Carlton Juniors v Edlington at Royal Park
Carlton Juniors team; ( 20 named, Herald)
Burns, Barrass, Dillon, Delagana, Fitzgerald, Farquar, Gallie, Holt, Legge, Memmott (capt), Muir, Orwin, Stewart, Sharkey, Smith, Sigmont, Tulloch, Thorpe, Wright, Kirus?
Umpire; H. Bromley
Carlton Juniors won, 8.11 – 2.3
Goals; McCulloch/Tulloch 3, Muir, Curtis, Thorpe, Delagana, Fitzgerald.

VJFA Ladder Section A
Carlton Juniors seventh, Played 5, Won 2, Lost 3, Goals For 14, Goals Against 14, Points 8


Interestingly the VJFA B Section club Rainbow, played their home games on the Carlton Cricket Ground.
This was known as “The Triangle”, a small cricket gound on Sydney Road/Royal Parade. The ground is now part of the Melbourne University.
While the cricketers and Rainbow played there, the Carlton Football Club played just across College Crescent, on the Princes Oval (now Crawford Oval) in the southern end of Princes Park.

June 10
Carton Juniors v University on the University ground.
Carlton Juniors team; (Herald)
Orwin, Fitzgerald, Sigmont, Delagana, Memmont, Holt, Stewart, Thorpe, Tulloch, Wright, Muir, Curtis, Sharkey, Farquar, Legge, Smith, Slattery, Barrass, Burns, Ingram
Carlton Juniors lost by 5 goals
Carlton Juniors 2.3 – 7.1

June 15 Thursday
The VFA Senior Second Twenty Association will hold an important meeting tomorrow evening at the Orient Hotel. (Age p3)

June 17
Carlton Juniors v Coburg at Coburg
Friday's Herald said Carlton Juniors v Essendon Second Twenty in Royal Park
Also, on p3 the Herald said, “Carlton Juniors have a walk-over this week. Fortunate club.”
The Juniors did have walk-over against Coburg.

June 24
Carlton Juniors v Austral in Royal Park
Austral have picked up J. Graham ex Carlton.
Carlton Jnrs recruited, D. Williams from Fitzroy Juniors.
Carlton Juniors team from; (27 named)
Barrass, Burns, Curtis, Cameron, Dillon, Delagana, Duon, Fitzgerald, Farquar, Gallie, Hartley, Holt, Ingram, Legge, Memmott, Muir, Orwin, Slattery, Stewart, Sharkey, Smith, Sigmont, Tulloch, Thorpe, Wright, Williams, Yewers.
Carlton Juniors team; (Saturday Herald) 20 named
Barrass, Burns, Curtis, Dillion, Delagana, Farquar, Ingram, Legge, Memmott (capt), Muir Orwin, Slattery, Stewart, Sharkey, Smith, Sigmont, Tulloch, Thorpe, Wright, Williams.
Umpire; J. P. McMahon
Carlton Juniors lost by 3 goals
Carlton Juniors 1.2 – 4.10

June 24

Carlton Second Twenty v Essendon Second Twenty on the East Melbourne Cricket Ground

Carlton team from; (Herald p3) 29 named
Anderson, Augustine, Cameron, Cook, Brodie, Dunn, Downes, Grant, Gilmour, Hansford, Jones, King, Kelly (capt), Leith, Monk, Jacobs, McKeown, Rerdan, Sharp, Rawlings, Stevens, Wilson, Wilson, Thompson, Taylor, Price, Johnson, Halkins, Ryan.
No further details.

Essendon Second Twenty played Marylebone next week. (July 01)

July 01
Carlton Juniors v North Melbourne Juniors in Royal Park
Carlton Juniors team from; (26 named)
Barras, Burns, Curtis, Dillon, Delagana, Fitzgerald, Farquar, Gallie, Hartley, Holt, Ingram, Legge, Memmott, Muir, McKinley, Orwin, Stewart, Sigmont, Smith, Sharkey, Tulloch, Williams, Thorpe, Stokes, Slattery, Yewers.
Carlton Juniors team (Herald)
Burns, Curtis, Dillon, Delagna, Ingram, Legger, Memmott (capt), Muir, Orwin, Stewart, Smith, Sharkey, Tulloch, Williams, Thorpe, Stokes, Reilly, Traviel,
Umpire; J. McNab
Match drawn
Carlton Juniors 2.2 – 2.3
Goals; Tulloch, Burns
Bill Sharkey, a box of tricks, Delagana played a good all round game, Bob Stewart in the centre was a bit one sided, Tullock (dark blues) nicked the first full points from a difficult angle, “Hopper” Stokes ought to learn the Highland fling, Jim Ingram in great fettle. Made some of them sit up, or vice versa. (Sportsman July 4 p8)

July 04 Tuesday
“Three of the Carlton Second Twenty, Cook, Grant and Leith were picked and performed creditably”
(Herald p8) This was the July 01 senior game Carlton v St.Kilda at St.Kilda

July 08
Carlton Juniors v Fitzroy Juniors at Fitzroy Cricket ground
Carlton Juniors team; (Herald) 20 named
Barrass, Burns, Curtis, Delagana, Farquhar, Holt, Ingram, Legge, Memmott (capt), Muir, Orwin,Reilly, Stokes, Stewart, Sharkey, Sigmont, Smith, Tulloch, Thorpe, B. Williams.
Umpire; W. Hayes
Carlton Juniors lost by 2 goals
Carlton Juniors 0.1 – 2.11

July 11 Tuesday

“The Carlton Second Twenty want to arrange some matches with first-rate juniors.” (Sportsman p6)

(E. Penny Carlton Second Twenty Secretary)

July 15
Carlton Juniors v North Williamstown in Royal Park
Carlton Juniors team; (Herald)
Sigmont, Curtis, Slattery, Ingram, Memmott (capt), Barrass, Burns, Delagana, Holt, Legge, Sharkey, Stewart, Stokes, McKinley, Muir, Orwin, Smith, Tulloch, Williams.
Carlton Juniors lost by 3 goals
Carlton Juniors 2.4 – 5.4
Goals; Orwin, Burns
Best; Bill Sharkey, “Lardy” Tulloch, Dave Williams

July 15

Carlton Second Twenty v University on the University Ground.

Carlton team;
Anderson, Augustine, Brown, Brodie, Cook, Camerson, Dunn, Downes, Grant, Gilmour, Hansford, Halkins, Hart, Jones,jacobs, Johnson, Keily, Leith, Monk, McKeown, McInerney, Rerdan, Rawlings, Stevens, Thopmson, Taylor, Wilson. (No Details)

June 18 Tuesday

“The Senior Second Twenty Association has disbanded."

Players do not require a permit to play with a senior team” (Sportsman p6)

July 22
Carlton Juniors v Union Jacks at Albert Park
Carlton Juniors team; 15 named
Ingram, Burns, Irwin/Orwin?, Sigmont, Barrass, Holt, Quinlan, Tulloch, Kent, Memmott, Williams, Thorpe, Smith, Muir, Hagen
Umpire; F. Lucas
Carlton Juniors lost by 1 goal
Carlton Juniors 5.4 – 6.2 (Three quarter time 3.4 – 6.2)
Goals; Orwin, Smith, Barrass, Barrows, Vlautin.


July 22

Carlton Second Twenty v Ascot Vale at Ascot Vale

Carlton team;( Herald 21st p3) 23 named
Augustine, Brown, Brodie, Cook, Dunn, Downes, Grant, Gilmour, Halkins, Hansford, Hart, Jones, Jacobs, Johnson, Kelly (capt), King, Monk, McKeown, Rerdan, Rawlings, Thompson, Taylor, Wilson,


July 29

Carlton Second Twenty v Heidelberg at Heidelberg

Carlton team from; (23 named
Augustine, Cook, Brown, Downes, Drake, Dunn, Gordon, Gilmour, Finnigan, Halkins, Hansford, Jones, Jacobs, Johnson, Kelly, McKeown, Monk, McInerney, Rerdan, Rawlings, Taylor, Thompson, Wilson.
Team left the Rifle Brigade Hotel at 1.15pm
Result unknown

July 29
Carlton Juniors v Marylebone in Royal Park
Carlton team; (20 named)
Barrass, Burns, Memmott (capt), Ingram, Smith, Sharkey, Thorpe, Stewart, Holt, Delagana, Fitzgerald, Curtis, Muir, Orwin, Randall, Quinlan, Sigmont, McKinley, Hanna, Kent.
Carlton Juniors lost by 1 goal
Carlton Juniors, 2.4 – 3.5

August 05
No details Carlton Juniors or Carlton Second Twenty

August 12
Carlton Juniors v University in Royal Park
Carlton Juniors team (Saturday's Herald)
Barrass, Burns, Delagana, Hannah, Sigmont, Smith, Smith, Ingram, Thorpe, Sharkey, Williams, Williams, Muir, Kent, Fitzgerald, Stewart, Quinlan, Legge, Dillon, Thommond.
Carlton Juniors won by 5 goals
Carlton Juniors 7.4 – 2.2 (Three Qtr time Carlton Jnrs 5.1 – 2.2)
Goals; Delagana 2, Sharkey, Smith, Legge, Burns, Thornman

August 19

Carlton Juniors v Carlton Second Twenty on Princes Oval

The Juniors were fixtured to play Coburg, but they disbanded earlier in the season. So the Juniors had a walk-over and played the Carlton Second Twenty who were looking for games.
Carlton Second Twenty team; (25 named)
Anderson, Anderson, Augustine, Brown, Cook, Dally, Downes, Flannery, Gordon, Halkins, Hansford, Jacobs, Hughes, Johnson, Kelly, Monk, McKeown, Cray, Rerdan, Rawlings, Toumey, Taylor, Thompson, Williams, Williams.
No details

August 26
Carlton Juniors v Austral at Royal Park
No team details
Carlton Juniors lost by 2 goals
Carlton Juniors, 1.6 – 3.5
Goal; Sharkey


September 02
Final Home & Away Game
Carlton Juniors v North Melbourne Juniors in Royal Park
Walk-over for North Melbourne, Carlton Juniors failed to turn up.
However, a dispute arose over which team was to blame. Seems that Carlton thought the game was in Royal Park and North thought the game was at Arden Street.
It was declared a draw and both teams were awarded 2 points each. (Friday Sept 08 Herald p3)

Image
Final Ladder Argus September 04

1894
Contributors to this page: blueycarlton and Jarusa .
Page last modified on Wednesday 13 of December, 2023 11:33:25 AEDT by blueycarlton.

Google Search

Random Image

thumbnail
1987 - Adrian Gleeson Profile (10/04/87).
thumbnail
1995 Rd 15 - Adrian Whitehead Rising Star of the round.

Online Users

170 online users